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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible.
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans...
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kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was just the right medicine last night. >> now, let me ask the big picture political question, dana, and i want margie to weigh in as well. the democratic base for mr. b biden or did it just help ril up the base? >> it did clearly energyize the base. people are asking does that turn off independents or undecideds. i think even if it did that to some extent, what needed to be done was the reverse, the narrative that had been in place since a week ago that the democrats were back on their heels on the defensive. joe biden was not on the defensive last night. he
kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was...
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. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they are losing the debate and everybody knows it. >> the problem for republicans with the gore narrative, al gore did something we had never seen him do. democratic base
. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how...
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the answer is -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> now you're jack kennedy. more than 58,000 tweets were sent after the kennedy reference. one more thing, moderator martha raddatz, twitter followers increased from 6,000 to more than 20,000 during the debate. and join our conversation online. you can join me on twitter. i think i'm at 50,000 now and @newsnation. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to aleve. and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ female announcer ] and try aleve for relief from tough headaches. >>> with the vp debate now over, here's the question. now what? politico writes it this way, quote, there's scant reason to believe a debate among vice presidential nominees can in any lasting
the answer is -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> now you're jack kennedy. more than 58,000 tweets were sent after the kennedy reference. one more thing, moderator martha raddatz, twitter followers increased from 6,000 to more than 20,000 during the debate. and join our conversation online. you can join me on twitter. i think i'm at 50,000 now and @newsnation. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's...
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. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as rude. it looks like a cranky old man to some extent debating a polite young man. >> i think i have watched almost every presidential and vice presidential debate since the first four kennedy nixon debates since 1960 thinking back over the next few minutes i don't believe i have ever seen a debate when one participant was as openly disrespectful as the other as biden was to paul ryan. you can talk about the smirks the head shaking, it was con tenuous and disrespectful. >> that lead us to our brew on this question of the day. what did you think of the debate? send your comments via
. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as...
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are jack kennedy? stuart: that was interesting. i would say the vice president thought it wrong. why? because it encouraged economic growth. running the company right now is someone who agrees with me. that is why he is here. steve forbes. welcome to the program. i think this is economic history 101. i think joe biden got it flat out wrong last night and you say? >> it was absolutely wrong. brian was not comparing himself to kennedy, he was talking about his tax proposals. the budget deficit went out and the american economy went up. the key thing is, let's forget about the government. they are a mess. what does it do for the american people and the economy? ryan was right on kennedy. he was right on reagan. stuart: you have taken part in republican high-level presidential debates. back in, what was it, 96 and 2000. you were in those debates. how do you judge biden's performance? >> the base of the party would love it did the most independent voters, the more and more they see, they will be put off by
are jack kennedy? stuart: that was interesting. i would say the vice president thought it wrong. why? because it encouraged economic growth. running the company right now is someone who agrees with me. that is why he is here. steve forbes. welcome to the program. i think this is economic history 101. i think joe biden got it flat out wrong last night and you say? >> it was absolutely wrong. brian was not comparing himself to kennedy, he was talking about his tax proposals. the budget...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. i accept it in my personal life. i just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. i do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women, they... they can't control their body. it's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. and the supreme court-- i'm not going to interfere with that. >> woodruff: biden warned a conservative supreme court majority would overturn a woman's right t
jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose...
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kennedy lowered rated -- >> oh now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> one of the astounding things about this whole thing, and the vice president make the point last night but romney in the first debate said he is not going to cut taxes on people. they will pay the same amount if that is it where is his job program? if he is not going to reduce their taxes, where is his job program? he doesn't have one. >> stephanie: yeah. >> this whole thing about raising taxes on small business banks is hysterical. ryan said 53% of income would fall under small business income. but 53% of small business income is earned by 3% of the businesses. they are not small businesses. they are very profitable organizations. >> stephanie: exactly. i couldn't be happier -- what -- obviously you have been talking to a lot of people since the debate. what was your sense? >> i thought everybody on our side thought it was a home run. and i'm not the first one to say this, but the fact that the republican were harping on joe being ruud and smiling too much understand that they lost on substance substantially. the
kennedy lowered rated -- >> oh now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> one of the astounding things about this whole thing, and the vice president make the point last night but romney in the first debate said he is not going to cut taxes on people. they will pay the same amount if that is it where is his job program? if he is not going to reduce their taxes, where is his job program? he doesn't have one. >> stephanie: yeah. >> this whole thing about raising taxes on...
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jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of error, which is plus or minus five points, that poll is right within the margin of error. so, basically, it was a tie. want to get right to cnn contributor erick erickson, editor in chief of redstate.com. nice to see you, erick. >> thank you. >> you heard some of the back and forth last night, some of the highlights, i would guess. both sides have proclaimed that their guy won. you heard it in the spin room. i've seen it on twitter. people coming to talk to me this morning, their person had the decisive victory. ultimately you're going after people who are undecid
jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of...
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. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are looking for a solid performance to try to stop the republican momentum, to try to quash the poll imbalance that romney and ryan have been enjoy
. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger than i thought it would be. >> greta: is a number you're confident of? though you're surprised?. >> i would probably say some component of statistics. i won't be surprise fd it ticks up a little bit next month. the survey of people which is what the unemployment rate comes from has a job creation margin of error plus or minus 400,000 per month. anyone as i say, every month take a three-month average if you want to know how the job market is doing. >> greta: let me ask you about a three month average. this is what i said tonight. he said job growth in slept slower than in august. he said august slower than
jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment is in scranton? 10%. when you guys came in it's 8.5%. >> you don't read this. that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> look -- >> all right. you're going to hear more about the debate coming up throughout the day on msnbc. that is going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company." i'm chris jansing. richard lui is in next. >> malarkey was my favorite. one of the top tweeted moments. >> unbelievable how much traction that got. >> have a good weekend. coming up this next hour, pardon the interruption, the vice president brings the heat with laughs, guffaws an
jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james,...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> both campaigns are claiming victory. >> mr. ryan said that governor romney was a car guy. if they have an elevator stacked on their couch, i guess he was. >> there was one person on stage who was thought full, respect l respectful, steady and poised, the kind of person you want to turn to in a crisis and that was the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. i see these obama rallies and they're chanting four more years. our cheer is four more weeks. >> guys, i have to say, that was easily my most favorite debate of the season so far. i think biden was the clear winner, gave democrats the shot of energy they needed, hammered them on the 47%, hammered him on lying, said the facts matter. the moment where they talked about abortion was so destructive because ryan said i'm going to make you all do what i believe in my catholic doctrine and biden said, hey, i believe this, i respect catholic doctrine but i'll let you do what you want to do and made the case that the supreme
. >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> both campaigns are claiming victory. >> mr. ryan said that governor romney was a car guy. if they have an elevator stacked on their couch, i guess he was. >> there was one person on stage who was thought full, respect l respectful, steady and poised, the kind of person you want to turn to in a crisis and that was the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. i see these obama rallies and they're...
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jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies proposed by the romney campaign. how several newspapers and w websites are describing the debate this morning. it was rapid fire. it was lively. simply put, it was hard to turn away from. i agree with that. maryland governor martin o'malley joins me now. good morning, mr. o'malley. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well, don. thank you. the vice president went out there and did what he needed to do and a lot of people are energized to see him on such an aggressive and needed calling out of the falsehoods and shell games that these other guys are proposing. >> i know you have som
jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies...
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. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes too decent. joe biden is showing you have to stay with the facts. >> those people obviously thought joe biden dominated the debate. republicans thought paul ryan came out ahead. no surprise there. we have posted more video of last nights debate just look for world and u.s. news tab. >>> another debate is making headlines but for very different reasons. youtube video shows two southern california lawmakers almost getting in a fight. coming up at 5:45 what was behind this heated exchange. >>> happening right now the space shuttle endeavour is on the move. it's headed from lax to its permanent home at the california science center near
. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes...
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kennedy-- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan-- >> pelley: there's the jack kennedy line from the vice presidential debate in which lloyd benson told dan quayle that he was no jack kennedy. but right there was a very good example where you could see the vice president's technique. he was stepping on ryan over and over. every time ryan got going on something, biden would laugh, step on him, cut him off, he was being very aggressive. >> he was like the guy in the barco lounger yelling at the tv while being involved in the debate itself which comes across, if you're trying to be the guy speaking to the middle class, that's the way it goes. but this question of math is quite crucial because this is-- as norah said, who do you trust when the hard math is being done. both the president and mitt romney have said we've got to schinch this budget in a time of scarcity. who is going to do that? who is going to be in charge of that when the hard cutting has it to get done? >> pelley: we have nancy cordes and jan crawford covering the romney and obama campaigns. and they're joining u
kennedy-- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan-- >> pelley: there's the jack kennedy line from the vice presidential debate in which lloyd benson told dan quayle that he was no jack kennedy. but right there was a very good example where you could see the vice president's technique. he was stepping on ryan over and over. every time ryan got going on something, biden would laugh, step on him, cut him off, he was being very aggressive. >> he was like the guy in...
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jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be able to offer a piece of electronic equipment that is simple for children to operate but also mom and dad can operate it as well. >> you've just got to continue to sell the product. >>> when we come back, david gregory and tom brokaw join the conversation. also chuck todd live from danville, kentucky. >>> and later, house majority leader eric cantor and congressman chris van hollen. all that when "morning joe" comes back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment o
jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be...
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ronald reagan and jack kennedy did it to increase growth. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> we told each other what we are going to do. we said this is what we will cut. >> that is how you get things done. let me say it this way. >> a republican congress working bipartisan way? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was a governor of massachusetts for 87% of the legislature he worked with was democrats. he did not demonize them. he met with them every week. he reached across the aisle and did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why is he even contesting massachusetts? >> from tonight's debate -- you can post and share clubs as you are seeing tonight from the debate. it is all from the debate hub on c-span.org as you watch and engage in the debates. from our twitter page -- curtis is on the phone from georgia on the independent line. >> i think that -- we have candidates today, we should be supporting each other. i think it is time to elect mature people and congress to give the country moving back the way it should be. >> t
ronald reagan and jack kennedy did it to increase growth. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> we told each other what we are going to do. we said this is what we will cut. >> that is how you get things done. let me say it this way. >> a republican congress working bipartisan way? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was a governor of massachusetts for 87% of the legislature he worked with was democrats. he did not...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- republican and democrats -- republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said here are the things we're going to cut. >> we're going to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it this way. >> that coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them, he didn't demagogue them, he met with the party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principles -- >> and you saw what happened. >> and he balanced the budget. >> he did such a great job. >> vice president -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest -- what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce it long term? >> just let taxes expire like they'
jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- republican and democrats -- republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said here are the things we're going to cut. >> we're going to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it this way. >> that coming from a...
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ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> so was there a clear winner? 130,000 votes, and joe biden is leading with more than half. joining us for more, julian epstein and boris former aide to mccain/palin campaign in 2008. so boris, did paul ryan succeed here? has this been a game changing movement, has it picked up on the momentum that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to america that he is ready to be vice president and president if need be. and he absolutely did that. he was strong, he was resolute, and he stood up to very childish attacks from joe biden. some of the attacks were disappoint willing, the laughter, the smirking. it was very unvice presidential and unprofessional and at the end if you noticed when it was time to give their closing remarks, joe biden did not thank paul ryan, but paul ryan thanked joe biden. so on the overall picture, paul ryan did it great. does it help the momentum, it does. does it help democrats, it does not. democrats are st
ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> so was there a clear winner? 130,000 votes, and joe biden is leading with more than half. joining us for more, julian epstein and boris former aide to mccain/palin campaign in 2008. so boris, did paul ryan succeed here? has this been a game changing movement, has it picked up on the momentum that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to...
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jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent millions of dollars. you know why he -- >> you did ask for stimulus money? >> won it occasions. we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. his words. i wish he would just tell -- be a little more candid. >> unlike last week's presidential debate, tonight's debate did include some discussion of women's health issues, specifically each side's stance on abortion. >> if the romney/ryan ticket, if those that believe ab
jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent...
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. >> jack kennedy and -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> "mornings on 2" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm mike mibach. >> i'm tori campbell. >>> we're following breaking news. the firefighters are on the scene of two major fires in the bay area. nun san francisco. one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those -- one in san francisco and one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those scenes. we do want to start with a restaurant fire. let's go to tara moriarty who joins us live with a look at the firefight still underway. tara? >> reporter: cau -- claudine, this is a really stubborn fire. crews have been battling this for two hours. you can see the roof collapsed. as a result, all muni lines through west portal are shut down, the k, l and m. that's going to cause a traffic nightmare this morning. more than 100 firefighters are on the scene fighting these flames. the call came in from a passerby at 5:00 a.m. we're in front of the west portal union station. it started at the gobble restaurant and spread to an orthodontist's office. we'll have to wait for arson
. >> jack kennedy and -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> "mornings on 2" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm mike mibach. >> i'm tori campbell. >>> we're following breaking news. the firefighters are on the scene of two major fires in the bay area. nun san francisco. one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those -- one in san francisco and one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those scenes. we do want to start with...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said these are the things we'll cut. >> we'll fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. >> republican congress, working bipartisanly. 7% rating, come on. >> 87% of legislators were democrats. he didn't dem niz them, dem going to them, he met with them every week, reached across the aisle, didn't compromise principles, and he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job. a great job -- >> without raising taxes. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce the long-term deficit. >> let taxes expire like they are supposed to on millionaires. we can't afford this going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they don't need it tho. middle class people need the help. why
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said these are the things we'll cut. >> we'll fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. >> republican congress, working...
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. >> reporter: or ryan's attempt to compare the mitt romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case biden failed not only on style. >> quite frankly i was embarrassed for the vice president. i mean, the laughs. we counted 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance pointing to the vice president's response on whether there was adequate security before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> and they wanted more security there. >> well, we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> we just had a major hearing on this. that was one of the heart -- the heart of the point was these requests went unheated. and o
. >> reporter: or ryan's attempt to compare the mitt romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. yo
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of...
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jack kennedy -- biden: oh, now you're jack kennedy. [laughter] ryan: republicans and democrats have worked together on this. biden: that's right. we told you what we're going to do. [inaudible conversations] rune ryan we're going to fill in the details. that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. biden: that's coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? ryan: mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators were democrats. he didn't demonize them, demagogue them, he met with those party leaders every week, he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principles, he found common ground, and he -- [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: vice president -- biden: why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> moderator: what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce -- biden: just let taxes expire like they're supposed to on those millionaires. we don't -- we can't afford $800 billion going to people mak
jack kennedy -- biden: oh, now you're jack kennedy. [laughter] ryan: republicans and democrats have worked together on this. biden: that's right. we told you what we're going to do. [inaudible conversations] rune ryan we're going to fill in the details. that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. biden: that's coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? ryan: mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators...